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to avoid the fiscal cliff. next flicks' has reached a multi-year agreement to show disney movies after they finish their run in theaters. net flics outbid hbo, showtime and current rights holder stars. the deal will allow net slicks' to stream in disney movies over the internet, seven months after they leave theaters. starting in 2016. the financial terms of the deal have not been released. the nation's largest port complex loss angeles and long beach is back in business today. striking clerical workers reached a tentative agreement. the eight day strike prevented shippers from delivering goods with slips stacked up off shore. it was estimated that the strike cost the local economy a billion dollars a day. >> as we take a break. when i take a picture of this check, it goes straight to the bank. oh. oh look the lion is out! no mommy no! don't worry honey, it only works on checks. deposit checks from your smartphone with chase quickdeposit. just snap a picture, hit send and done. take a step forward and chase what matters. your season is here. let's just call it the baking time of year.
you. the meltdown that was sure to begin. my next guest says the fiscal cliff is simply y2k fear. joining me now is a chief investment officer. we have had other people talk about it similar to y2k. why do you feel that it is not something to worry about right now, from an investor standpoint. >> first, i think the deal is already settled in was settled a while back. everyone who has negotiated knows that is what goes on. from an investor point of view, i think you will find that the tax rates don't go crazy like everyone thinks. the dividend taxes, for example, you will have 23.5%. all of these captains of industries, what happens when it turned and looked around and say it really was not such a big thing. what will they do? will they go away from dividends and not have anything that has interest. liz: even with a potentially higher tax rate, you are still getting more than 1.6% or 1.7%. >> exactly. look at how many times in history we have had higher dividend taxes. the rate will hit around 20%. it could go as high as 36 or 39%. with that said, 200 companies, roughly, are accel
loves balance. great to have you with this. up next, the fiscal cliff. it is hung up on tax for the rich. not really. we will tell you why those taxes are going up regardless of the deal. tomorrow, former u.s. ambassador to the united nations, moody's keep -- chief economists. best-selling author among our guest. please be with us. and as we go to break, here's a little christmas cheer. before pd... i took my son fishing every year. e had greaspot, not easy find, but worth it. butith copd making it hard to breathe, i thought those days might be over. so my doctor prescribed symbicort. it t helps significantly improe my lungunction starting within five nutes. sybicort doesn replace a rescue inhaler for sudden symptoms. with symbicort, today i'm breathing better. and thameans...fish on! symbicort is for copd including chronicnchitis and emphysema. it should n be taken rthan twice day. sybirt may increase your risk of lung fections, osteoporosis,s, d some eye problems. ll ur doct if you have a heart condition ohigh blood pressure before taking it. with copd, i thought i'd miss our family t
actually learn a lesson from florid next, how hrry's could be the latest victim in the fiscal cliff talks. the esident of the united way joins next. i'm only in my 60's... i've got a nice long life ahead. big plans. so when i found out medicare doesn'tay all my medical expenses, looked at my options. then i got a medare supplement i insance plan. [ male aouncer ] if you're eligle for medicare, you may know it only covers about 80% of youpart b medical expenses. the rest is s up to you. callow and find out about an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company. like all standardizemedicare pplement plans it helps pick up some of what medicareoesn't pay. and could save you thousds in out-of-poet costs. to me, relationships matter. i've been with my doctor for 12 years. now i know il be able to stick with him. [ male announcer ] with these types of plans, you'll be able to visit any doctor or hospital that aepts medicare patients. plus, ere are no networks, and you never need a referral to see a specialis so don't wait. call now and request this free
the fiscal cliff leads to a housing boom for one of the wealthiest areas in the country. i guess someone has to come out ahead in this whole mess. we'll explain it coming up. you can never have too much beachfront property. ♪ . ♪ >> it is a test ♪ [ engine rs ] >> this is a test [ male announ] oh what fun it is to ride. get the mercedes-benz on your wish list at the winter event going on now through december 31st. [ santa ] ho, ho, ho! [ male announcer ] lease a 2013 e350 for $579 a month at your local mercedebenz dealer. but when i was in an accident... e350 for $579 a month i was worried e health care system spoke a language all its own with unitedhealthcare, i got help that fit my life. so i never missed a beat. that's health in numbers. unitedhealthcare. melissa: it is time for a little fun with "spare change." today we are joined with julie he's supposed to be out there right now, but i think he is lost in the building somewhere. so we will start without him. i think he might join us in progress. melissa: to be fair, we did change studios. so it's possible that he is sitting in an
for 2012 i'd like the rest of the fiscal cliff the effects next year the patch applies to the return we will have to file for next year. if there is not congressional action this is the abrupt increase of taxes of the 2012 taxes in 2011 approximately 4 million people if there is not a patch 30 million people will be required to pay in 2012 for the current taxable year very few have any idea this is on the table. >>host: is the ira's prepared? >>guest: datuk a fairly prepared unusual but correct position that congress do the responsible thing. they did their tax programming for the 2012 return assuming congress would enact a patch. i think that was reasonable because i believe they will but it does mean if there is not a patch the tax return filing season will be the opposite. >>host: we are welcoming representative cole house speaker john boehner sens the proposal what do you think? >> it is a great opening start makes sarid tangible what the speaker committed to it after the election to the revenue on the table not how much or what way with that is inner misstep by the republicans not
more than 11,000 employees. president obama warned republicans not to try linking the fiscal cliff negotiations to an increase in the federal debt ceiling early next year. timothy geithner says the administration absolutely it prepared to let the economy go over the fiscal cliff unless the republicans accept higher tax rates on the healthy. and the southern philippines struggled to recover from a typhoon that killed nearly 300 people. and what does a day in the life of public buses, trains and subways look like? the answer is part of our science roundup online. hari sreenivasan has the details. >> sreenivasan: the image resembles a lite-bright time lapse. find those pictures and our conversation with a software developer who set out to visualize the 24-hour cycle of urban public transit systems. that's on our homepage. an international telecommunications conference in dubai aims to set new rules for the internet. what's at stake? we take a look in the rundown. and on making sense, economics correspondent paul solman argues both sides of the capital gains tax debate. all that and mo
the fiscal cliff negotiations closely for what could happen next to this tax goody next year. >> here's the question i'm hearing people ask, if we go off the cliff here, how big a hit will we take on taxs? stand by, because i'm about to give you the closest answer i possibly can. to help me with that is laurie montgomery, she is the fiscal policy reporter for the washington post. so, laurie, welcome to you here. and your paper this morning, you ran through a couple of tax scenarios which were pretty palletable so we want to show our viewers what you ran through with, of course, the help from the tax policy center. let me run through two. we'll look at this first one. so everybody take a look at this graphic. this is scenario number one, married couple, two kids, one in college, combined income of $137,000. you see the numbers here, first under the democrats' plan, passed by the senate, not by the house, they would see their taxes rise 2500 bucks a year. just below that, the republican plan, passed by the house in august, would raise the couple's taxes by $4,000. and if we go off the c
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are up. we're going to get economic data over the next few days that hopefully will put the fiscal cliff uncertainty behind us. that's been a real problem for stocks. we'll get an update on the health of the labor market. the adp report comes out this morning. economists surveyed by briefing.com. they expect 125,000 jobs will show up in this report. it's a report for private sector payrolls. we get a broader reflection on the jobs market on friday. >>> oil production reaching the highest level in 15 years. this is according to a report from the information industry. the highest level since 1 98. this new eia report says the increase in production due mostly to the extraction process known as frac'ing. there are those who have coined a new phrase, saudi america for america's projected energy boom over the next decade. a report from last month says the u.s. is expected to unseat saudi arabia as the world's top oil producer by 2020. huge implications for foreign policy and how we do business. it's really been an interesting development in the oil patch. >> it will be really nice to talk abo
game. every time for the next six weeks you hear the word fiscal cliff you get to drink. the country won't be able to drive. people will have to walk to work. >> newt gingrich telling jay leno about his novel approach to fiscal cliff, one i heartily endorse. the former speaker of the house is familiar with economic crises, his battle with president clinton twice led to government shut-downs. his new book is "victory at yorktown." he joins me now. welcome, mr. speaker. i thoroughly enjoyed your suggestion for a drinking game, fiscal cliff. trouble is if you had it for every time that phrase got mentioned we would all be paralytic by midday. >> think how much less worried we'd be. >> you are the perfect guy to talk about this, because i'm getting increasingly fed up, bored, miserable with the whole thing. i wake up in the morning with fiscal cliff reverberating in my brain and i can see politicians playing the very game that you alluded to there on jay leno and it is a game for them but for other people, it's a very real thing. and the economy at the moment is completely stagnant waiti
for the next five or six months. there is a unique opportunity to governor. second, there is that fiscal cliff. it does not appear that we will see something here. that will be positive and significant. there is a billion-dollar number that is key. the revenue side, that is the key number. how do you get to that number? >> $600 billion? >> wasn't that the number two summers ago in 2011? >> i do not think so. you need the white house? >> yeah. >> we have a minute left. anyone else? >> i do not think we need to argue about the cbo right now for all the reasons we talked about. the outcomes of these experiments are uncertain. cbo cannot buy in before it knows the evidence. i strongly support what he said about leadership. this is a moment for a huge opportunity. the president needs to lead and the leaders of congress need to sit down and work this thing out. it is not that hard. we need to do it. other countries do it. we can do it. there is no reason why we should miss this huge opportunity to stabilize our that and in the -- stabilize our debt and in the process over the next few months to refo
off the fiscal cliff. let's take a look at currency markets. the dollar is also little change against the yen as u.s. budget talks continue. dollar/yen is in the upper 81 levels, 81.88 to 90. the euro, that is higher against the yen, 107.27 to 30 at the moment. worries are reseeding over eurozone debts. let's take a look at other markets in the apple open. kospi is trading flat on the day, 1,934. looking at australia, the benchmark index is trading higher by 1/10 of a percent, 4,508. modest moves so far this morning in the asia pacific. >>> japan and india launched a new framework to provide bilateral credit in u.s. dollars. the aim is to ease the impact of possible turmoil in the global financial markets on asia. the two countries worked out the details on tuesday. japan's prime minister and his indian counterpart had signed the currency agreement a year ago. under the framework both countries will be able to exchange up to $15 billion over the next three years. the two countries had a similar currency deal in 2008 when the global financial crisis hit asia. recently india's rupe has
doctors across the country are getting queasy over the fiscal cliff. you need to know how this affects your wallet. ve interesting. do you ever have too much money? melissa: now onto the middle east. egyptian president morsi reportedly forced to flee his pa todayfter thousandsf gry protesters rioted nearb police fired tear gas on demonstrators. thsituation is getting more and more heated here to talk about impact of all it, we have the vice president of foreign and defense policy studies wiih the american entprise institute. welcome back to the show. thank you for joining us. thank you. melissa: let me get your reaction what is going on totoday. first in egypt. reports he left the palace. is that meaningful to you you know, i think it is probably jt discretion on his part. they're firing. there is a lot of violee there. people are climbing over the fences. suspect rather than fleeing the palace as it has been made to sound in certain headlines he is just actually getting out of the way of tisonfrontation. melissa: it soundsretty serious. one of the points you make from one perspeivesh
think that if the gold market, or people trading gold, were really that concerned about the fiscal cliff, that would be the safehaven, and we wouldn't see this major sell- off. but, we are seeing that, and actually if we break through this $1,700 level, the next major area of support is down about another 5%, around $1,620. > so the fact that people are not rushing to gold tells you that there is a chance that maybe things will be ok. > > exactly. > good to have you on the show. that's scott bauer of trading advantage. > > thanks angie. newly-elected massachusettes senator elizabeth warren will reportedly take a seat on the senate banking committee. the huffington post reports warren has been selected to join the committee starting next year. warren, a major advocate of wall street regulation and cracking down on big banks, won the race for senator in massachusettes in the november election. she also helped launch the consumer financial protection bureau in 2010. two seats will be open on the banking committee after the year wraps up. 2012 is turning into a very profitable year for banks
the fiscal cliff. we put an answer on the table. the president now has to engage. i think the next 72 hours are critical. if he sits back and continues to play politics, that will give you an answer of where we're going. this is an opportunity for this country to lead. this is an opportunity for the president to lead. >> at these fiscal cliff negotiations and debate continues, i think it's important to remember that washington doesn't have a revenue problem. it has a spending problem. and under this administration, under president obama, we have seen record deficits and a record debt accumulate and yet he keeps demanding that we raise taxes in order to pay for more spending. this will only hurt our economy, ernston young has done an analysis of the president's proposal. and said that it would cost 700,000 jobs, at a time when our economy continues to struggle. there's a better way and the speaker has laid it out. it is an approach that calls for tax refoach. -- reform. by reforming the tax code and passing responsible spending cuts in order to get our fiscal house in order. that's what amer
, you are, i think, correct in the second piece of the fiscal cliff. that is the tax rates that will apply next year. arguably, you don't have to take action this year, you have the whole of next year during which you can reach resolution to that issue. now, the only reason why i think that's an extraordinarily bad idea is i think it would be viewed quite unfavorably by the financial markets. and so you could see a reaction. and it is really bad tax policy to be legislating in the middle of the tax year on the basic structure of the income tax for that year. >> host: we'll go to jeff in tampa, florida, independent caller. >> caller: good morning, how you doing? >> host: good morning, sir. >> caller: yes, i have a question for mr. buckley, and this is more -- it may be a little generic, but something that a couple of my friends and i have talked about and just trying a basic understanding of. instead of having an income tax, has there ever been any discussion about having a national or a federal sales tax to help offset so this way everyone from the rich to the poor, everyon
of oklahoma, it will cost to $700 million in so many things. if we got the fiscal cliff. gerri: with the defense cuts come if we do over the cliff, it will cost $100 million or over that? >> 137 million. gerri: would this put you into the red? >> it certainly could. we are still looking at obama's health care plan and what it will do to the state budget. the federal strings are tied. i asked the president about this. the federal funds that come down to the state as you may cuts -- we can still have the strength attached to it. it doesn't give leeway to meet your unique circumstances in our state. we are all different. different budgets, different employment rates, different constitutions, different laws. different styles of living and means within our budget. give us some flexibility. gerri: i expect you to be a little bit more upbeat about the fiscal cliff, but i have to tell you, you sound like a lot of people in washington today. concerns over whether these leaders can get together and find common ground and resolve this issue. it would be meaningful to stay like yours. gove
issues around the fiscal cliff. we think it is really important that they get something done because, obviously, if tax rates go up on middle-class americans come next month, it will be bad for those middle-class americans, it is will be bad for our states, and we're concerned about both the fiscal side and the economic growth side. >> susie: so talk to us a little bit about what kind of deal you would like to see. what were you proposing to the president? >> let's put it this way, if money is just shifted from the federal government to the states, that's not really saving anything. and the president understands that. we think it is really important. recognizing if there are cuts in funds, there ought to be a corresponding reduction in some of the requirements that are put on the states. so we really, as much as anything else, wanted to make sure that our voices are heard and that as decisions are made, whether it is about taxes, whether it is about spending cuts, that they be done equitably and with our input. >> susie: your state is headquarters to many large american companies. an
's something that won't happen. short term spending cuts should be part of any fiscal cliff deal. the big news this morning is we're not going over the cliff. they have a bad hand. they're going to end up passing this middle class tax thing if that's the only thing they do. and live to fight another day. you can see the momentum building. not official but you see it. the difficulty for boehner still is passing the extension may be best of the options it is an option that a chunk of his party has said he would reject. the fiscal conservatives criticizing boehner's budget pr proposal. then you had senate republicans watching their backs, rejecting a u.n. treaty that bans discrimination against those with disabilities around the world. senator jim demint said speaker boehner's $800 billion tax hike will destroy american jobs. yes, he said speaker boehner. one party proposes increase in an effort to counter them. the other party's leadership proposes, wait for it, $800 billion in tax increases and then former alaska governor sarah palin blasting boehner's decision to remove some conservatives from
and talk about the big issues on the other side in 2013. >> first, no one wants to go off this fiscal cliff. that would be a self-imposed damage to our economy. number two, the next step is the enactment of the bill that's in the house, dealing with the tax relief for all income below $250,000, providing the revenue base to have that type of confidence and discussions between the two sides. the next step let's get that bill passed. i'd like to see us go further before the lame duck is over and be able to have a framework in place to get additional deficit reduction. >> you were part of this emotional appearance from bob dole on the floor yesterday voicing his support for the u.n. disability treaty yet even his presence there and the emotional images as we see him on the floor there in a wheelchair was not enough to get some republicans to vote for it. senator kerry calling it the saddest day he's seen in decades. the measure failed. what is your reaction to that and what is the excuse to the american people? >> i am a member of the senate foreign relations committee, we added to the treaty
next weekend. i's an ipad, iphone fan. >>> another option on the fiscal cliff negotiating table being considered is raising the age when seniors can start receiving medicare to help ease our debt burden. what do you think, bob pisani? raise the age. is it a good idea? >> of course it is going to help us. we should consider that. that's the most likely thing on the cable. what i'm worried about here, it is very easy to say we'll save a bunch of money, pick a number, $6 billion or whatever the number if we take it off. where do the people go? those 65 to 67-year-olds will go into the private system where these exchanges we're going to have. they're likely going to pay more money there and the premiums are going to go up because of all those seniors. so it isn't free! that's my point. it is not just the government saves money, other people, those seniors are going to pay to be in those exchanges. >> there's no free lunch. >> nothing. >> i think there is good news that with this administration we don't have to worry about having another debate about privatizing social security. you and i,
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the next nine years which brings us where we are right now, mr. speaker, this so-called fiscal cliff. it's not a fiscal cliff. the truth is we have a tax decision coming up and we have a spending decision coming up. truthfully, we need more spending decisions coming up. sequester is a new word that we brought up. the sequester, as you recall, mr. speaker, was the hammer that we put in place way back, one of the first big votes you and i took way back in august of 2011. that was part of an agreement that the president wanted to raise the debt ceiling. there were bills that needed to be paid. the speaker of the house, john boehner, said we're not going to expand america's credit card until we get serious about curbing spending. he said, no, mr. president, i will not raise the limit on america's credit card unless you agree to dollar-for-dollar reductions on the spending side of the ledger so that we're not just making the problem worse, we're creating a pathway to solve the problem altogether. i admire the speaker for that. and the speaker and the president agreed on this proposal. it was
of the fiscal cliff which effects rates that will apply next year. the patch applies for returns we file early next year. if there is no congressional action, there is an abrupt increase in tax on the 2012 taxable year. in 2011, approximately 4 million people paid the amt. if there is not a patch, 30 million people will be required to pay the amt in 2012, and they will pay an additional $90 billion in tax. very few of them have any idea this is on the table. host: is the irs prepared? guest: the irs is fairly unusual, but in a correct position, that congress will do the responsible thing -- they took the position that congress will do the responsible thing. they assumed congress will enact a package before the end of the year, and i think that was the reasonable thing to do because i believe they will do that. however, it does mean if there is not a patch of the tax return filing season next year will be quite chaotic. >> you can see all of that interview at c-span.org. we are live at the reward dinner. is this year's recipient. we will hear from paul ryan, last year's winner. >> he took the t
, only 27 days more for washington to keep the nation from going over the fiscal cliff and there is still no sign of break the stalemate. the house of representatives is in recess until next week, but speaker john boehner says he's staying behind ready to sit down for face to face negotiations with president obama. so far the key players are not talking and listen to this. congressional aides say they aren't even communicating by phone or e-mail. the president is rejecting the latest republican proposal because it does not raise taxes on households making more than $250,000 a year. the gop wants the bush era tax cuts extended for everybody and is instead offering to close tax loopholes and limit deductions. >> the revenues we're putting on
backlash from his own party over the fiscal cliff proposal that he made with some saying it doesn't go far enough to fix the deficit. we'll break down what this means for negotiations ahead with our morning joe panel. but up next -- you never know who you'll see on a new york city subway. and for one kindly old lady, she literally did not know who she was seeing and sitting next to. we'll play her full conversation with jay-z when "way too early" comes right back. [ woman ] ring. ring. progresso. i just finished a bowl of your new light chicken pot pie soup and it's so rich and creamy... is it really 100 calories? let me put you on webcan... ...lean roasted chicken... and a creamy broth mmm i can still see you. [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. time for citi price rewind. because your daughter really wants that pink castle thing. and you really don't want to pay more than you have to. only citi price rewind automatically searches for the lowest price. and if it finds one, you get refunded the difference. just use your citi card and register your purchase online. have
to the business round table today about the ongoing fiscal cliff talks. boeing ceo jim mcnerny says the business leaders want a balanced solution to short and long-term deficit issues. >>> and facebook is joining the nasdaq 100 index. it will be joining the index next wednesday and replaces tech firm emphasis who is moving to the new york stock exchange. >>> our guest host here to take on the financial cliff as well as false assumptions investors may be making about what the markets will do come january. joining us is dan greenhouse and chris walen, senior managing director. just looking through some of your comments, dan, you don't think we should go over, obviously. >> well, we were -- chris and i were joking in the green room. a lot of the policies in the cliff to us personally are anathema, but that's probably going to happen and what should happen. >> bring it on. >> you think -- >> look, subject americans to the minimum tax. >> yeah, they'll understand. >> the democrats want to raise taxes so they can spend more. they derive economic sustenance from spending. you've got to understand the d
past the fiscal cliff deadline and postponing the battle over the tax cuts for the wealthy until next month. >>> some things going on at the hospital. two australian deejays called the hospital posing at queen elizabeth and prince charles and got through to kate's private nurse. shockingly, if you hear the audio, who briefed them on her condition. >>> and a health scare for anderson cooper. he says he went blind for almost two days. he actually showed a picture of himself wearing an eye patch. he says he lost his sight for some 36 hours last week, while reporting from portugal, after spending a couple hours on the water. cooper said he felt like his eyes were on fire. it turns out, his eyeballs were sunburned. go figure. >> it can happen. >> it can apparently. >> i did not know that. >> you do now. >>> here's diane sawyer, with a preview of tonight's "world news." diane? >> hello, josh. hello to everyone on "gma." tonight, it's not just holiday shopping. join the movement. "made in america." creates new american jobs. american companies are saying thank you. the great "made in america
until a credible solution to the fiscal cliff has been announced." the house will not adjourn. not! but don't worry, he will be on to the next stage soon enough. it is kind of ironic, since, of course they adjourned today until next week. this is a wednesday. but anyway, that's bargaining is the next stage. and of course bargaining means that you hope to be able to compromise. you hope to be able to avoid the inevitable. the poster boy for this one is oklahoma senator tom coburn who said today that he would rather see tax rates go up than close loopholes because then he thinks he can get tax reform passed in the future. a little bit of wishful thinking. >> i know we have to raise revenue. i don't really care which way we do it. actually, i would rather see the rates go up than do it the other way because it gives us greater chance to reform the tax code and broaden the base in the future. >> jennifer: so he's not giving in. he's just bargaining now to see what he can get later. and then we've got the fourth
revenue, this fiscal cliff issue much larger. talks about the debt ceiling and what that means for next year. treasury saying that sometime early next year they will run out of those extraordinary measures and the u.s. will have to raise the debt ceiling or default. back to you. ashley: very good point. rich edson in d.c. thanks very much. tracy: our next guest says, forget taxes. washington needs to focus on cutting entitlement spending if we want to prevent a battle between old and young americans. diana further got roth, senior fellow at man hat taken institute and joins us now. diana, seems to me raising the retirement age is the simplest thing you could do yet we're not talking about that. >> well, we certainly should be because part of the deficit problem, a great part, is entitlements, social security and medicare, keep adding fiscal burdens as people's live expectancy increases and it's great that people are living longer but when social security was first thought of the life expectancy was only 67. now it is around 85. we need to raise retirement ages or somehow thinking about
to help deal with the so called fiscal cliff. ktvu's rita williams reports on the court of public opinion and why it may not be enough. >> reporter: what do you think? will the president in congress send the country plunging over the fiscal cliff. >> i don't think they'll reach it. i don't know what they will do then. >> i am hoping and praying they do. come together. >> i am hoping it will be by the end of the year. >> do you think they will reach an agreement or not? >> i don't. >> reporter: a poll shows more americans think they will not agree. 49 to 40%. and if they don't an automatic spending cuts and tax increases take effect. americans by two to one say they will blame republicans more than the president. but that didn't stop both sides from criticizing the others proposals. >> his proposal was so outlandish, i don't think we should go back to the table until he puts something there that we can work there. >> when you look at the map it doesn't work. >> reporter: an attempt take place in january. >>> we want to ask him about a homicide. >>> live storm tracker 2 picking up showers s
is to call for tax reform by august 1st of next year. in the meantime, the nation's debt ceiling is looming in january. the president's warning republicans not to include any debt limit concessions in their fiscal cliff strategy. >>> we have had a lovely week around here. but it's time to get back to a little december reality. >> would you look at that. veronica has a look at another change coming our way. what about it, veronica? >> do you like that sunset? isn't that gorgeous? >> it's lovely. >> fiery red there on the horizon. and not a bad day. the wind picked up a bit. that northwesterly wind behind the cold front that came through very early this morning. high temps in fact for today, 60 degrees. that was at 5:00 a.m. we now stand in the mid-50s. pretty much falling temps all day. now 55 degrees. trinidad, and good afternoon to you folks in tyson's corner. up north, already in the 40s. kensington at 48, with temperatures dropping. and these winds have been rocking us today out of the northwest. still at 20-mile-per-hour gusts. those will be settling down. as that happens, it's going to
, ross. i mean, you don't really know what is going to come out of the u.s. fiscal cliff, how damaging potentially that can be to u.s. confidence, u.s. activity. things seem to be holding up fairly well in china. but i think there is still going to be some concerns about the whole performance of the asian economy and whether that can actually pick up next year. and then, of course, in the eurozone itself, we seem to be mending the problems progressively and taking out the tail risks, which i think is good and that is the bottom line that investors should take going further forward, but at the same time, there are some elements that you can have. if you do a forecast, in a way you could come up with something like 1% quotes for next year, but at the same time, you have to be conscious that we've had such a battery of downside impact, downside negative news coming through really for all economists in the western world in the last few years. you have to be very cognizant of those. >> i think so. julian, we're going to leave because we have to get a break in and we've got to g to egypt as
american jobs over to china. >>> finally, a toddler takes in cnbc's fiscal cliff talk. [ laughing ] >> that's like young kids who say they like me saying "let's play hardball." anyway, that's going viral, obviously. >>> up next, 44% of a certain group of americans tell pollsters seceding from the union might be a good idea. who are these people? half think aa.c.o.r.n., which no longer exists, stole the election. what is this fringe called? it's called the gop. wait until you see these stats. it's like jay walking with jay leno. i don't know who these people are. anyway, "hardball," the place for politics, coming up. >>> here's what's happen. iran says it captured a u.s. drone and released a videotape but the u.s. denies losing any. >>> prince william visited his pregnant wife kate at the london hospital where she's being treated for acute morning sickness. back to "hardball." >>> remember the twilight zone on television with rod serling? according to the public policy poll out today, 25% of republicans, that's a quarter of all republicans you know, say they would support their state secedin
in this case. >> up next on "starting point," the president will not accept a deal on the fiscal cliff if it doesn't include raising taxes on the wealthiest americans. is there wiggle room for compromise. former deputy campaign manager stephanie cutter up next. u.s. oil production at its highest level in almost two decades. people on wall street say we could be a new saudi arabia. we'll chat with christine romans about that coming up next. [ male announcer ] introducing... a new way to save on your prescriptions. it's the aarp medicarerx saver plus plan from unitedhealthcare. with this plan, you can get copays as low as a dollar through a preferred network pharmacy like walgreens -- where you'll find 8,000 convenient locations. best of all, this plan has the lowest part d premium in the united states -- only $15 a month. open enrollment ends december 7th. so call today or visit your local walgreens. i knew it'd be tough on our retirement savings, especially in this economy. but with three kids, being home more really helped. man: so we went to fidelity. we talked about where we were an
vance. tonight, president obama issued yet another warning to republicans, do not use the fiscal cliff to start a fight over the debt ceiling. the u.s. could reach its debt ceiling by the end of the month, and risk defaulting on its loans early next year. house speaker john boehner today said, quote, we don't have time for the president to continue shifting the goal posts. we need to solve this problem. danielle lee now joins us from capitol hill with more on this story tonight. danielle? >> reporter: jim, good evening. we're just now learning that president obama spoke to house speaker john boehner by phone this afternoon. but we're not hearing of any progress on avoiding the fiscal cliff or on raising the nation's debt ceiling which is currently at $16.4 trillion. there are new concerns about what could happen to the country's credit rating in the new year. each day toward the fiscal cliff is also another day closer to the country maxing out on its borrowing limit. president obama talked to business leaders today. >> the only thing that the debt ceiling is good for as a weapon is to
. as the markets remain focused on the fiscal cliff, what else should we be watching ahead of tomorrow's market trading. we have 30 seconds on the clock for each of our next guests. joining me now is stephanie link from the street. chris from huntington funds. good to see you both. stephanie, kick us off. 30 seconds on the clock. what do you want to see tomorrow? >> interest rate decisions from the ecb as well as bank of england. commentary from mario draghi will be very important about the state of affairs in europe. there's an analyst meeting tomorrow. a lot of this is tied to stronger revenue growth. and there's an analyst meeting tomorrow on hombres. i like both stocks. >> thanks a lot, stephanie. chris, what are you looking for. 30 seconds on the clock. what do you want to look at to move our money? >> the major impact is looking at the fiscal cliff. any compromise close to that is going to give the market some upward swing. the gop is under extreme pressure since president obama is definitely going to be seeing a wealthy tax added to it. on the economic news, little light tomorrow with in
. fiscal cliff, beyond the fiscal cliff. let me get to this steve. this is about including the debt ceiling. and what the president said about that in this negotiation today. >> we are not going to play that game next year. >> if congress in any way suggests they will tie negotiation to debt ceiling votes and take us to the brink of default once again, part of a budget negotiation, which by the way we have never done in our history until we did it last year. i will not play that game. because we have to break that habit before it starts. >> bret: what about that? >> well, the president had as many red lines for iran as for house republicans. i think what kirsten said is absolutely remarkable. it is about the scalp. it's about the president having made a campaign argument for the better part of 2012. so that he could run a class warfare campaign. now having to make good on that with the base of his party. the u.s. economy be damned. the republicans offered to give so much and offering precisely what erskine bowles laid out as a compromise position in the proposal they made the other day. you
there are other issues like the fiscal cliff that are predominant right now in the national debate, but you know, as i said, you mentioned swing states. legal guns polling most voters trust the president more than mitt romney on the issue of guns so you know you know, i think people are just waiting for him to take action. >> it was interesting and when he spoke of that it galvanized. when he spoke about same-sex marriage it shifted public opinion. i for one people that this is an issue ripe for him to take and grab and to move forward on. eric fascinating thing when cob costas used one of the bigger media platforms out there sunday night football, he got a lot of eyeballs, and not necessarily eyeballs who are going to be sympathetic to a gun control issue. i give bob costas a ton of credit. fair or not? >> he said he knew he was going to get criticized. no regrets. he's not going to be run off what he said. it's interesting when you have a sportscaster, both bob costas and jason whitlock. that's sad this is an epidemic. i think the mainstream press talk about the politics, i think the mainstrea
't know, at some point maybe you say it is time to man up, go over the fiscal cliff, and see what happens, fix the debt problem and maybe things will be better, maybe 10 or 15 years down the road, but maybe that is the responsible thing to do. >>guest: i was with you until you said the responsible thing to do. when the congress created this sequestration nightmare it wasn't the responsible thing to do. they did it so we would do the responsible thing and that the sequestration, the fiscal cliff the responsible thin wouldn't happen but if we don't get from the american people, if they don't call their congress person, whether they are republican or democrat and tell us to move off the dime and get the job done, we call --. >>eric: what happens in what happens? i tell you what happens. all you guys on washington pat each other on the back and say we didn't go off the fiscal cliff and the debt goes from $16 trillion to $20 trillion a couple years down the road to $25 trillion. nothing changes in washington, dc. you tax. you still spend. maybe it is time to take the medicine congressman and g
at what's next. >> andrea, if you go over the cliff i'm here to catch you. >> thank you. need that. >> thank you. following the latest on the fiscal cliff fiasco. congress is facing the issue of the fiscal cliff and other tough economic decisions. why did just today republican leadership cancel tomorrow's session allowing the house to leave town with three days left on the legislative calendar? i'll talk with two democratic members of congress just and allyson schwartz and john yarmuth. i'll talk to roger simon. he has a scathing new column out on republicans. roger says, quote, listen to this, republicans have found their stab in the back. it was the minorities what done them in. that's what he wrote. we'll ask him about it. ♪ i'd like to thank eating right, whole grain, multigrain cheerios! mom, are those my jeans? [ female announcer ] people who choose more whole grain tend to weigh less than those who don't. multigrain cheerios stop! stop! stop! come back here! humans -- we are beautifully imperfect creatures living in an imperfect world. that's why liberty mutual insurance h
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